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		<title>By: Chameau</title>
		<link>http://sqldumbass.com/2008/08/sadly-this-is-true/comment-page-1/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Chameau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like we hit a nerve. Try not to take everything you read here at SQLDumbass personally. Most of the DBA&#039;s that contribute here are very helpful, even if you are an idiot. They will go out of their way time and again trying to help those that want help, but that still does not stop us from shaking our heads in disbelief.&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;I am certain not all DBA&#039;s are perfect, but I am also certain not all developers are either. At the end of the day, if you cannot laugh at yourself, then you need a vacation. &lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;You should also understand that stories being related in a blog do not always come through as well as if they are told personally. In other words, if we were at the pub having a beer we could swap the same stories and you would not come away with the same feeling as if you had read the story on a blog.&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;It sounds as if you are frustrated with your current DBA, but I am willing to bet if you spent more time together you would develop a strong working relationship. In the case here, what you are not aware of is that this developer routinely shuns details. For example, after filling up the log once, they demanded that their database be put into simple mode in order to avoid the disk from filling up again. We tried to explain what is meant by simple recovery mode to which they replied &quot;I don&#039;t need to know those technical details, just make sure the disk doesn&#039;t fill up again.&quot; Now, this is a developer that walks around proudly displaying their MCSD designation. Sorry, but what solutions are they certified to develop such that they do not have an understanding of transactions, recovery mode, etc.?&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;We are not asking them to know everything, only a fool would expect someone to know everything. What we are asking for is that they have a desire to learn things, to not be stubborn, and admit mistakes when they happen. And yes, the same can be said of DBA&#039;s.&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;Enjoy the rest of the stories. If you would like to contribute, let us know. SQLDumbass is about anything related to SQL, so it can be a post about developers, Microsoft, or DBA&#039;s. It doesn&#039;t matter, we just want to protect identities, but share some funny stories. If you want to rant about your DBA, then this is the place to do it.&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;So, don&#039;t get your knickers in a twist about what you read here!&lt;BR&gt; &lt;BR&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like we hit a nerve. Try not to take everything you read here at SQLDumbass personally. Most of the DBA&#8217;s that contribute here are very helpful, even if you are an idiot. They will go out of their way time and again trying to help those that want help, but that still does not stop us from shaking our heads in disbelief.</p>
<p>I am certain not all DBA&#8217;s are perfect, but I am also certain not all developers are either. At the end of the day, if you cannot laugh at yourself, then you need a vacation. </p>
<p>You should also understand that stories being related in a blog do not always come through as well as if they are told personally. In other words, if we were at the pub having a beer we could swap the same stories and you would not come away with the same feeling as if you had read the story on a blog.</p>
<p>It sounds as if you are frustrated with your current DBA, but I am willing to bet if you spent more time together you would develop a strong working relationship. In the case here, what you are not aware of is that this developer routinely shuns details. For example, after filling up the log once, they demanded that their database be put into simple mode in order to avoid the disk from filling up again. We tried to explain what is meant by simple recovery mode to which they replied &#8220;I don&#8217;t need to know those technical details, just make sure the disk doesn&#8217;t fill up again.&#8221; Now, this is a developer that walks around proudly displaying their MCSD designation. Sorry, but what solutions are they certified to develop such that they do not have an understanding of transactions, recovery mode, etc.?</p>
<p>We are not asking them to know everything, only a fool would expect someone to know everything. What we are asking for is that they have a desire to learn things, to not be stubborn, and admit mistakes when they happen. And yes, the same can be said of DBA&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Enjoy the rest of the stories. If you would like to contribute, let us know. SQLDumbass is about anything related to SQL, so it can be a post about developers, Microsoft, or DBA&#8217;s. It doesn&#8217;t matter, we just want to protect identities, but share some funny stories. If you want to rant about your DBA, then this is the place to do it.</p>
<p>So, don&#8217;t get your knickers in a twist about what you read here!</p>
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		<title>By: Lens Ton</title>
		<link>http://sqldumbass.com/2008/08/sadly-this-is-true/comment-page-1/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Lens Ton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Typical DBA response to a genuine problem - just mock the guy who doesn&#039;t have your specialist knowledge. The guy had probably given up asking for real advice from a DBA years ago. I can imagine how this went: Q.&quot;Why does my logfile keep growing and using up all the disk space&quot; DBA gives no help, but offers to &#039;truncate&#039; it. Q.&quot;After you truncated the log, how come its still taking up 95% of the space it did before&quot; DBA gives no help. Q.&quot;Can&#039;t we just delete it&quot; DBA - no can&#039;t possibly do that. Then one day - the DBA is on holiday, another contract DBA does what we want - detach, delete logfile, reattach. it seems to have no deleterious effects - so it becomes the &quot;standard&quot; solution to when the logfile has grown too big - developer goes away happy. The next time it happens, Mr original &#039;no help&#039; DBA is back.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Typical DBA response to a genuine problem &#8211; just mock the guy who doesn&#8217;t have your specialist knowledge. The guy had probably given up asking for real advice from a DBA years ago. I can imagine how this went: Q.&#8221;Why does my logfile keep growing and using up all the disk space&#8221; DBA gives no help, but offers to &#8216;truncate&#8217; it. Q.&#8221;After you truncated the log, how come its still taking up 95% of the space it did before&#8221; DBA gives no help. Q.&#8221;Can&#8217;t we just delete it&#8221; DBA &#8211; no can&#8217;t possibly do that. Then one day &#8211; the DBA is on holiday, another contract DBA does what we want &#8211; detach, delete logfile, reattach. it seems to have no deleterious effects &#8211; so it becomes the &#8220;standard&#8221; solution to when the logfile has grown too big &#8211; developer goes away happy. The next time it happens, Mr original &#8216;no help&#8217; DBA is back.</p>
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